Hi Nappers,

Episode 100. We can't quite believe it either!

To celebrate we've got the one and only Dr Sujay Kansagra, aka That Sleep Doc. Child neurologist and sleep medicine doctor at Duke University.

He's also the man Sally DM'd on the seventh of December 2024. It was left on unread. We'll let him explain that one…

We ripped the band aid and asked the big ones:

  • What is sleep training, actually?

  • Are sleep associations real?

  • What do dogs in the 1960s have to do with learned helplessness?

  • Can sleep training hurt attachment?

  • How do you get through the crying?

He invented what he calls "the most expensive crib mattress in the world". Then he tells you sleep training is safe and effective anyway. That bit alone is worth the listen.

Also in there: a giant adult sleep monster, a kitchen floor and the hill Bec will die on. Plus what happened five minutes after Sally's husband backed out of the driveway.

This is part one. Next week we ask the most important question we've ever asked a paediatric sleep doctor. It involves a biscuit.

Listen to this episode

Find Sujay at @thatsleepdoc on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatsleepdoc/

Sally and Bec x